What if the key to rewiring your mind, releasing old patterns, and stepping into deep healing wasn’t just mindset work… but sound?

If you caught my last episode with the legendary Peter Blum, you know that sound isn’t just something we hear—it’s something we feel, absorb, and respond to on a subconscious level.

But why does sound have such a profound effect on our minds and bodies? And more importantly… how can we use it to heal?

Let’s dive in.

🌀 Sound Naturally Puts Us in a Trance State

Have you ever gotten lost in music—where time melts away and you feel completely immersed in the moment?

That’s not random. Sound naturally shifts our brainwaves into altered states, much like hypnosis or deep meditation.

🔹 Fast, rhythmic sounds (like drumming or chanting) bring us into beta and gamma states—increasing focus and activation.
🔹 Slow, resonant sounds (like gongs, singing bowls, or deep hums) bring us into alpha and theta states—where deep healing, creativity, and subconscious rewiring happen.

This is why sound healing works. It’s not just “relaxing”—it’s physically shifting your nervous system and opening the door to subconscious change.

✨ Your brain LOVES sound because it bypasses the overthinking mind and goes straight to the source—your subconscious.

🔮 Sound + Hypnosis = The Ultimate Reprogramming Tool

One of my favorite things Peter Blum said in our conversation was:

“Every sound healer should know hypnosis. Every hypnotist should know sound healing.”

Why? Because sound is hypnosis.

Think about it—when you hear a repetitive, rhythmic sound, it lulls you into a deeply relaxed state. You don’t have to think your way there… your body just follows.

That’s why pairing sound healing with hypnosis is so powerful. You’re not just listening—you’re rewiring.

💡 Imagine using:
🎶 A low humming sound to drop into a deep, receptive state
🌀 Gentle hypnotic suggestions layered over resonant tones
🔥 Vibrational frequencies to shake up old beliefs and stagnant emotions

This isn’t just a theory—it’s something you can experience right now.

🎧 Ready to Feel the Shift? Try This Mini Sound Healing Exercise

Don’t just read about it—FEEL it.

🔊 1-Minute Sound Healing & Hypnosis Practice

1️⃣ Find a quiet space. Close your eyes. Breathe in deeply through your nose, and exhale slowly through your mouth.
2️⃣ Start humming. Let the vibration move through your chest and throat.
3️⃣ As you hum, imagine tension leaving your body.
4️⃣ After a few rounds, let the sound fade and sit in silence for 30 seconds.
5️⃣ Notice how you feel. Lighter? Clearer? More grounded?

Sound doesn’t just work on a mental level—it works physically and energetically.

✨ Your Body is Always Listening—What Are You Feeding It?

Here’s the truth: Everything around you is shaping your subconscious.

The sounds, words, and frequencies you expose yourself to daily are either:
✔ Calibrating you to higher alignment, peace, and expansion
❌ OR reinforcing stress, stagnation, and limiting beliefs

So what are you listening to?

If you’re ready to:
💡 Release old patterns that no longer serve you
🎶 Use sound & hypnosis to rewire your mind for success
🌀 Step into a new level of healing & alignment

Then I invite you to experience this firsthand.

📌 Catch my full conversation with Peter Blum (links at the top of the podcast) and drop a 🔥 in the comments if you’re ready to reprogram your mind with sound!

#SoundHealing #HypnosisForHealing #RewireYourMind #HealingFrequencies #SubconsciousReprogramming

Meet Peter Blum

Peter Blum is an award-winning hypnotherapist and sound healer. He has been involved as a leader and innovator in both of these healing fields for over 35 years, and has trained and certified hundreds in hypnosis.  He is the author of two books: "TranceSonics - The Vital Link Between Sound Healing and Hypnosis" (2018), and "What Is Your B.S.? - Exploring Belief Systems Through Hypnosis and NLP" (2024). Additionally, Peter has released 8 recordings in the Sound for Healing series of meditational music.

For those ready to explore the power of sound and hypnosis, connect with Peter Blum and discover how these practices can help reshape your life: 

🌎 Website: www.trancesonics.com 📸 Instagram: @blum6306 📘 Facebook: Peter Blum

By incorporating sound and hypnosis into your life, you can unlock new levels of healing, self-discovery, and transformation. Start your journey today and experience the power of these ancient yet modern techniques!

Peter's HOT Upcoming Live Events:

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Transcription

 Hi, Peter. Welcome to the Healed and Cash Flowing Podcast Show. How are you?

I'm well. Thank you for inviting me.

My pleasure. I've been looking forward to this conversation for a while. We share a couple of things. For those that don't know you yet, can you tell us a little bit about yourself? The CliffNotes version.

Cliffnotes. I was born in the late 1940s, so you can do the math and figure out my age, approximately. I grew up in New York City. I moved to Woodstock, where I currently reside in 1969, with the exception of three years when I lived in Holland. From '78 to '81, I lived here in Woodstock I raise my family. I have two grown children. I have two grandchildren. I've been a musician all of my life, and for the last since 1985, so we're talking 40 years. I've been involved in the practice of medical and clinical hypnosis, and I'm very attracted to all spiritual practices from around the world and involved in studying and seeing which ones I can graft on seamlessly to my existing self.

Beautiful. Thank you. Yeah, that's a well-rounded intro. I'm leaving quite a few things out, but that's my job to bring them out, which is good. So For those that are not familiar with hypnosis, and I know that it has many definitions, what's your definition of hypnosis?

It depends what day you ask me, because it has It's very mysterious. It's not a thing. This has been pointed out by many. It's not a thing like Bertrand Russell said about electricity. It's not a thing. It's a way in which things behave. So hypnosis, the great hypnotherapist and psychiatrist Dr. Milton Erickson, who's been a huge influence on me, at one point, he gave several definitions. One was it is a temporary pleasant interruption of habitual patterns in order for creative solutions to take place. So that's a nice way of thinking of it as a therapeutic healing thing. How do we resolve things creatively if we're stuck in thinking about them over and over again the same way? So we have to create a break in the circuit. Hypnosis is a conscious invocation of the unconscious.

Which most of the time is running a show unbeknownst to us.

Absolutely, right. Years ago, before I was involved in hypnosis, I heard someone and say, 95% of what we do is unconscious. I was like, How could that be? But it seems that my going into my brain and finding words to make these sentences is an unconscious process. My knowing how to shape my mouth and lips to speak them is an unconscious process. As I move my hands while I'm speaking, I don't have to think about moving my fingers. This is all unconscious. So much. It makes sense. It's economical. It's efficient. We're designed this way so that we can focus on something while everything else is going automatically.

That's beautiful. We know the brain is lazy, another way of saying that it likes to be efficient. So it likes to create patterns of ways of doing things so we don't burn so much energy.

Right. Neurologically, it's easier once a neural connection has been established to go down that route over and over again. That's how habits are developed and they're very efficient. If they're good habits, great. If they're habits that... Again, when I introduce people to an Erichsonian approach, I say there are certain presuppositions that we start with based on Erichson's understanding of human behavior and communication. One of them is that every behavior originally had or still has some positive purpose or function. So when we think of behaviors as asthma is a behavior. Nail biting is a behavior. And so originally, a phobia had a positive purpose or function, it may no longer, but it's on automatic. It's just going. And so to realize that this is a pattern, A, that's the first thing. It's the aha moment. Then secondly, I don't like this pattern. Thirdly, what are my options for changing it? That's when a lot of people think, Oh, it knows us. They don't know what it is, but they know that a bunch of their friends have lost weight or stopped smoking. Those are the two big ones. In our field, I work with so many things, but I would say 50% of my practice is either weight loss or smoking cessation.

A close third is some form of stress management. That's the connection that the general public has with hypnosis. Often I have to spend, and you know this because you're involved in the field, I have to spend some time early in the session reeducating false beliefs and conceptions that people may have from watching old movies on TV or seeing stage hypnosis shows where people act silly. I say, Look, most human beings act silly enough without me hit me. I don't need to do that. One of the big fears people have, even if they're here and they're paying me and they believe in it, is that they are concerned about losing control. And understandable, That's an issue for a lot of people. I need to be in control. Otherwise, I might do or say something embarrassing or make a mistake or whatever.

Or not be safe.

Not be safe, right.

That's a big one for Exactly.

So one of the very first things I do, I would say the background, the canvas that everything gets painted on is to establish an atmosphere of safety, that you are safe here. This is a safe container for you to examine and make changes and have insights. And if anything disturbing comes up, we'll deal with it. I can't guarantee that you won't have. That's part of the process often is revealing things that, Oh, wow, that was there.

It's still. Sometimes, some things that happened 20, 30 years ago.

It was there. It's still there. I buried it. We might say some of these are festering wounds, and in order to clean the wound, you have to acknowledge it and clean it out, and then it can hear. Otherwise, it's just going to be in there, in where you can't see it. If it's on your skin, you can see it. If it's inside, you don't know. And you're walking around hurting yourself and others because you don't know why you have these unconscious patterns based on old trauma or fears or whatever, learnings. We could call them learnings. It was a learning that happened that was to protect. And most behaviors, or a lot of them that people develop are to keep themselves safe, right? Or for peer acceptance. I ask all my clients, they come in, let's say, to stop smoking. I say, What? What do you get from the behavior? What do you mean? What do I get? I get lung cancer. I'm like, Yeah, no point. What did you think back when you first decided it was cool to light up a cigarette? What was going on? Well, my older brother smoked, or my friends, or some movie star, I had a lot of smoke, or whatever.

And they want to be accepted. They want to be... So that's a motivation to start something. And then I don't know if everyone is familiar with it, but I often refer back to the Walt Disney film, Tentasia, very famous film, different sequences of animation that were done to famous classical music. And one of them is Alexander Dimas, The Sorcerer's Apprentice. And I even have over there, outside of the camera, Mickey Mouse sitting dressed as the Sorcerer's Apprentice, a little puppet that some friends of mine sent me from Los Angeles. And the point of it is that it's based on a famous story that the sorcerer gives his apprentice, Mickey, a job. The job is to get pails of water from the well and fill the bath. Mickey's doing this. He's lazy. He looks in the Sorcerer's book, Sorcerer goes to take a nap. Mickey looks and he finds a spell to animate a broom. He does this saber cadabra. We can think hypnosis is a spell, spell casting, spell breaking. And the broom draws little arms and legs, and picks up a pale, and starts filling the master's large bath with water. A very famous music is playing.

And Mickey's so happy, and it's going on and he's conducting and the broom is filling and he falls asleep. He wakes up and the bath is overflowing because the habits will continue on their own after we create them, even if we're not paying attention to them. So it's a beautiful metaphor. And he freaks out and he takes a broom and he chops. He takes an ax and he chops the broom. For a while, the music quiet down. You think everything's okay, and it starts up again. Each splinter turns into a little broom. Now there's a whole parade of them carrying water and throwing the bath. He's looking madly through the book. He can't find the counter spell. Fortunately, at that moment, the sorcerer wakes up, comes down, looks around, stops. Everything stops. The flood subsides. He shakes his finger at Mickey. Mickey looks embarrassed. So this is how it's a perfect analogy. We create something. Originally, it had a really good reason. Then it's on its own, and we can't figure out how to stop it. So we could think of the sorcerer as our role as the hypnotist, as the person, the hired gun.

We're brought in to help this person do something In reality, I can't really make anyone do, stop or start anything. They have to do that themselves. So there's a a theater that's involved, a ritual of going to see a healer and presenting your case and pain. And then they do abracadabra, and you go and you invoke the inner physician, the inner healer, you realign your chromosomes and your neural circuitry, and you make a choice, and you decide to do things differently. And then because we're involved in this little pantomime, then they pay us and they walk away and they say, That person, man, that cat, she's amazing. Peter, blah, means extraordinary. And I know that all I did was create and hold the space for them and believe in them and say, you can do this. I show you how to get yourself into that state where you're going to accomplish this, but it's your doing.

Yeah, it's a partnership. I love how you broke it down so it's not so mystic anymore, pie in the sky. It's really you deciding, I want to change a pattern, I want to change a behavior, going to the person that you connect with and then participating in the process. That's my favorite part. They are part of the solution.

They do have to. As much as they would like, in many cases, to abdicate responsibility, I made this joke, and I repeated it that some of my clients come and they sit in this chair, they come and they say, Okay, just do me. And I know that has multiple connotations. But they really want me to just wave my magic wand. And I say, well, listen, because every good hypnotherapist and wizard should have one, I have a magic wand right here on my altar. And for 899, you can go down to the toy store in town and get one, too. But these are the props. These are the props of the magician. My good friend Dr. Louis Nauma Jona, who I work with frequently, he's a psychiatrist who is of a native heritage, part Cherokee, part La Culta. We've done teaching together for many years. One time, he was demonstrating something he does called Cherokee bodywork. He had someone on a table, and he was doing various manipulations, very similar to osteopathic work. At one point, he brought out these two little white stones, and he had this story. He said, A friend of mine was working doing excavation, building roads through Kentucky, and they went into this mountain, and they found these caves with these stones there, and they seemed to have certain properties.

And he placed one by the other side of the head of the person he was working on and proceeded. He said, I'm going to do Cherokee brain surgery now. And we all went, What? And after he finished, and I have access to him backstage. And I said, Louis, what was up with those white stones? He said, well, a shaman has got to have good props. And that is the case. And I've watched a lot of these medicine people, and they're very authentic, and they're very powerful at what they do. And I don't know if we're going there yet, but I'm going to step in that direction that I have been very fortunate to be around and sought out native healers and medicine people, men and women who are coming from traditional societies and do this work. And I go to hypnosis conferences for decades, and I give a presentation that's called Shaman's the World's First Hypnotice, because they're working in trance. They didn't call it hypnosis. They didn't have that word. But they were going into that state and they were using... Listen, I have behind me a bowl of sage and a feather. And this is it, something called smudging, where you purify

You burn sage and you use the feather or wing to smoke around to purify the person's energy field. A, I do believe it's real. I can't see it most of the time. When I was a young man and took psychedelics, I could see it, but most of the time I just feel it. I can feel somebody's energy field. I've had aura photos of myself, so you see it. It's there. We don't stop at the skin. We go beyond the skin. But this has been done in many cultures, in South America, there is Copao or Palo Santo. Here in North America, often sage or cedar, and you burn and you waft the smoke. It's like taking a bath. It cleans some of the impurities that are washing you in your energy field. So yes, I believe it works, A. B, it's a ritual. If you're engaging in something and you get, like you talked about it, you're co-producing this with the client. They have to be engaged. You've got to get them involved. Yes, I buy into this. The more you can do this... I wrote this book recently called What is your BS, which is here And it says Exploring Belief Systems Through Hypnosis and NLP.

There's a chapter in there on Hypnosis as Ritual. So the idea that we are creating a ritual Someone comes in and they are introduced, and there's a step-by-step process, answering questions, gathering information. And then eventually, I established this is the place, and we're sitting at my kitchen table, and I say, Would you like to go sit in the trans chair? Okay. So there's an agreement, and that's already started with They're processing. One of the points that some of my hypnotists friends make is, how good are your clients at following directions? A lot of them ask for them, but they don't follow them. If I say, How would you like to go sit in that trans-chair and close your eyes and begin to go into a hypnotic state? That's giving a suggestion. That's giving directions. They may say, I don't know what to do. I'd like to, but I don't... Okay, I'll tell you what to do. Then you begin a step-by-step process of instruction.

Yeah. It's so fascinating. I love that you talk about it, Beth. When I know that you started very early on as a musician, when did you make the connection of the power of sound in hypnosis?

Yeah, that's a good question. I made the connection of the power of sound to enter into other states of consciousness as a child. I grew up in a musical household. There was music playing all the time we had a There was music, classical music on the radio. My dad was an opera singer. My mom and dad used to sing together. Music was part of my heritage. Early on, I was playing the guitar when I was 12, when I was 13, and I got Mitzvah Mitzvah, which is a ritual for young Jewish men. I asked my parents for my big present, I want a kundedron. They were like, Okay. I was attracted early on to the power of rhythm and music. I would sit in my room for hours and with my little kunga drum and just lose myself in the rhythm. Pete, you're doing your homework? No. Yes, but not the way you think of it. So this draw towards music as not just entertainment, but as a door, a portal, an entryway into I altered state of consciousness. It was early on. I still lose myself. I pick up an instrument and I lose myself in it

I have so many, many instruments, and I moved through the '60s, which was a time of great exploration of consciousness. And I used a lot of the tools that were around at the time, the psychoactive substances that were popular. It's been many, of the years, I don't anymore, but I did then, and I would hear sound in ways that I never heard it before. I know Now, musical sound will pick up well on this. Yes. Yeah. Okay. So I'm just going to go off camera for one second and go and get this instrument.

Which is beautiful.

Yeah. This is a version of an instrument called a handpan. They are relatively recent. I mean, I don't know. I may know there were Trinidad still drums, but they didn't sound like this. This is I played this. You don't need to do much. It's so resonant. The resonant quality It was attracting me. I didn't know what... I didn't identify it as such, but a really beautiful, Steinway grand piano. You hit a note and you hold down that pedal and it goes, and it goes, or a chord. So every instrument, including human body, sings. This exploration of the effect of sound and In my early 20s, I was introduced to the work of Hasrat Naye Khan, the Sufi mystic. And Hasrat Naye Khan, the Sufis are the mystical branch of Islam, the whirling dervishes the poetry of Rumie and Hafees. And Hasrat N'ai Khan brought the Sufi message to the West, and he wrote these books, the Sufi Message, volumes 1-12, and Someone handed me volume 2 or 4, I think it was, on the Mysticism of Sound and Music. I was reading it and it was like, oh, my God, someone has written about what I have experienced.

That was the beginning of my quest into finding out the history and practice of sound and music as a yoga. It's called in India Nadda yoga, N-A-D-A, which is the Nadis of the Sound Currence. This is a practice where you work with sound to awake in consciousness. Beautiful. Right? Yeah, the yogis knew this. And they work with sound, and they chant mantras, bijoux mantras, which are the mantras that are theoretically, I don't know, I don't see chakras, so I accept on faith that they're there. And they have petals. And each petal, the yogis said it had a particular sound that was connected with it, the bishmaatras, so they're chanting these, and kept exploring this. I'm exploring this and I'm doing these performances of meditative music. We didn't have the word sound bath. I'm talking about 1976, 1977, I was working as a guitarist, and I was playing the tambour, which is a drone instrument from India, a string drone instrument, and working with other musicians. It was world music. Then I went and studied from '78. In '78, I moved to Holland, and I went and I pursued an interest I had for a long time of studying North Indian classical music.

And I found a I studied the Raga systems, and I studied sitar for three years. That was very big piece to help understand things. I came back to the States in '81 and was working as a journalist because that's what I was doing before I left. I was still doing that. I was interviewing people, following my own interests, a small weekly paper, and I had risen to the point where I could give myself assignments. So I was interested in alternative forms of healing. And I was interviewing and writing a series on chiropractic, acupuncture, Walthing. Shiatsu. These were not mainstream yet. 82, 83, 84. My friend Richard Zauer returned from California. He said, I think you should include me in your series. I'm doing Erichsonian Hypnosis and Neuro-Linguistic programming. Never heard of either of them. I said, Okay, I didn't know what shiatsu was either. So I go and I interview him. And Part of my process was, and one of the perks of doing this series was that I got to experience all of the modalities. So he talked to me through a bunch of information, mentioned names, Jean Grinder. He had studied with John Grinder out in California, one of the founders of neuro-linguistic programming.

He was talking about Milton Erickson and LP. He said, here, and he sat me in the chair like this, and this chair goes back like that. Then he put headphones and goggles on me, and they were feeding in a pulse light and sound in the Alpha and Theta brain wave. And then he put... This was a chair that had a cassette player, and he put a cassette in with speakers that came around on either side, and there were two voices talking to me at the same time, telling two different stories. I went, bye, bye. Oh, and there were rollers in the chair that went up and down my spine, along the acupuncture meridians and the footrest vibrate. And I was just gone. We understand this in terms of now knowing what I'm doing. This is a technique we call overload. There's so much data coming in through the sense is that the conscious mind just says, I'm out. I'm out. Right. Richard came back in a half hour later, and he took the glasses off and the tape was over. He said, How are you doing? I said, That was great, man. I recognize this state.

That's hypnosis? He said, yes. I said, it's very close to other things I've experienced. He said, yes. I said, and you didn't do anything? He said, Yes. That was his way of showing me that really all hypnosis is self-hypnosis. He just set me up. He didn't do anything. I It was given the tools and I went into that state.

The music got you deeper into that state and all the other stimulations?

Well, not quite, but all the two voices at once and the light and sound, beeping. But also, I wasn't done. I said, I need to research this more. I'm going to come back next week and talk to you again. And I said, So that was wonderful. But what would I use it for? I mean, I could meditate and I could go into that state or smoke a joint. But what would I use it for? He said, Anything you like. I said, Well, I don't really have any major issues I'm working on now because I was in denial at the time. But he said, well, it doesn't have to be something that's wrong. It could be something you already do that you'd like to be better at. So I have a tennis player. I said, can I use it for my tennis game? Absolutely. We did a session very different. I wasn't sitting in the chair. I was running around. I was standing. He was anchoring excellence and went out. I came back a week later, I said, All right, I'm a believer. This stuff works. That was my introduction. But at the same time, continuing to be fascinated with sound and music.

And in the mid... So this is '84, '85, '86, I make the transition over. I'm also introduced to... I had heard recordings of singing bowls, but I had seen them. They weren't around that much. And then they started to appear in import stores, you know, tabedian stores, Eastern boutiques. I think many of the people watching this at this point know what a singing bowl is. I'd heard them, so I knew about them, but they weren't around. This is a singing bowl. This is a second singing bowl. And the third one. There's a lot of sounds going on here. These come from a culture that is not using the tempered scale. If you grew up in the West, whether you're listening to Bach or the Beatles or Bob Dylan. It doesn't matter. They're still using the Rémy Fossé, the Tigo, and that's the major scale, and then there's intervals of sharps and flats. These come from a culture where you get infinite gradations of sound. They're not tuned specifically. People say, Well, what note is that ball? I'm like, This bowl makes... This is the one you couldn't see. It's a larger one. It's a beautiful bowl.

This is a beautiful ball. This ball makes several different notes. If you listen carefully, you hear the pulsation of sound. There's slower beats and faster ones. Our state of consciousness, in some ways, could be said to be what's going on with our brain waves. That is a reflection, a way of gaging what state of consciousness you're in. And now we have the technology to go and hook somebody up and say, Oh, your brain right now is predominantly generating alpha or beta. I believe that these bowls generate pulsations and frequencies that are in the alpha and theta range. So I'm starting to think about, well, that machine that Richard hooked me up to was generating sound and light into alpha and theta brainwave range for purposes of entrainment. Entrainment is an important principle that I work with and teach because I teach a lot, increasingly. I've always taught, but more so recently, and looking at the combination. I talked to you about... You mentioned that one of the first things that I said when we met was I find my mission these days is to bring the message of the importance of incorporating sound into your practice to hypnotics.

I've been doing that for a while. Now, with more and more people involved with sound healing, which is a term that wasn't around 30 years ago. I'm a sound healer. I took a weekend course to bring to them the message of the importance of possibly incorporate an understanding hypnosis, since when you play these instruments, there are people are going into a hypnotic state. You might as well understand that so that you can utilize it better, right?

It's such a beautiful, and thank you so much for demonstrating the sounds and explaining so beautifully how they enhance each other. That's what you said. You said every sound healer that I meet, I tell them, You need to learn hypnosis and every hypnotist, you need to learn about sound healing.

I generally stay away from need. It would benefit. It would be beneficial to do that. This is another thing we understand is the precision of language that we often use words unthinkingly, phrases. I work with somatic language also. Client comes in and they're saying frequently, Oh, my boss at work is such a pain in the neck. Later they say, Yeah, my five-year-old is just such a pain in the neck. I'm like, How's your neck? Do you have neck aches frequently? Yes. It's funny you should ask, Well, maybe you want to stop saying such and such as a pain in the neck. There's a book on my shelf. There's some books I tell people, you don't need to read the book. If you understand the title, Your body believes every word you say. When we speak, think about the effect as a sound healer and as a hypnotist, we're working with the power of sound and spoken words are are audible sound. They're just coded in a language, right? But the sound, the words have meaning, and the brain and body hear it, and they're like, Yeah, you know? There are many examples that I could use of words that people are unconsciously cursing themselves.

That is about wearing the tongue, as we know, for Oh, yeah.

I knew a woman who was brilliant. In fact, I was married to her. She's gone. She's not on the planet anymore. But she was a very bright woman who had her master's degree in special Ed. Every time she would go to add up a column of numbers, she'd have a brain freeze. I said, What's... She said, My dad always told me, you'll never be good at math.

Oh, wow.

That's a bad spell. That's a hypnotic suggestion. So I said, well, there's many ways I didn't want to work with her because we were married, but if she had been a client, I would say, you can go into a dreamlike state and Tell them in the spirit of your dad and tell them, you meant well, but I reject that. I'm not going with that anymore.

And it will work.

Yeah. Well, you're reconfiguring a belief system that's been influencing seen you for so long without even being aware of it or maybe being aware of it, but not knowing that you can change it. You can change it. Timothy Leary, the great leader of the Psychedelic Revolution, had a recording He used to put on an LP, and it said, This time around, you can be anyone you want. That so long, for so many generations, our ancestors more or less inherited the the occupation, the customs, the beliefs of their parents who got it from their parents before, and so on back to antiquity. He said, This time It's a different... This is a game changer. You can be aware of that and choose to follow some of those things. You can also make different choices.

That's beautiful. I love You know that in practicing and learning all these modalities, you have first-hand knowledge and experience of how powerful they are. When you're teaching your students or something that you do very frequently, you have programs going all the time, you're not talking about something that you read. No. You live it and you practice it.

Everything. I give for many years sound baths, some meditations. I bring these gongs that are up here behind me, the bowls that I demonstrated. Here's another very beautiful instrument that I got recently. It's a double damaru bowl. We move down through the air. It's not stationary. We set up and people come and they lay down on the floor in the yoga mats. Sometimes I'm doing solo, sometimes I'm working two or three or four other musicians. We say this is a sound, sonic meditation, a sound bath. Everything that we are doing here for you today came out of our own yoga practices. I thank the audience. I said, thank you for being here, because if you weren't here, we'd be doing it in our living rooms. That's what I do. I have these instruments sitting around, and I play them, and I've always played them. I didn't understand for a long time that this was a way of getting into a hypnotic state. Now I do. And you can, too, and you can do it for yourself. Growing up with the music presented the way it was. I went to take piano lessons as a kid.

I didn't do that well. It didn't move me. Here, I'm saying anyone, this This is an instrument here that anyone can play easily. It's a Native American style, Plains style flute. It's like a recorder. You just The very simple instrument, anyone can learn to play it. I suggest to people, find something you like, a drum, a flute, a bowl, the voice. I also work a lot with the voice, and I encourage people to practice using the first instrument we all got, which is voice. I'm enthusiastic about this. Yeah. Even now. When my friend says, How do you get me to do so many things? How do you get the energy? Because they energize me. I love sharing this information with people. I look for opportunities to do it.

It's amazing. And I'm so excited that you're sharing this with practitioners like me. So I'm trained somatically, find it very powerfully. And I myself, as I told you when I met, I invented something, and then I found out about you, I didn't invent anything. I was adding sound to somatics and then to hypnosis. You've been doing that for a long time. Others have been doing it for a long time. So I know that you have something coming up for practitioners to learn.

I do. Well, two things in the near future. One right here in Woodstock, which is working with my friend Dr. Louis Mel Madrona, the Cherokee Lakota with a psychiatrist, his wife, Barb Mange. They come here a couple of times a year from Maine. We're doing three days, March seventh to ninth, a place called The Nest on March Madness. And Louis and I both relate to the trickster figure of coyote. So this is three days of playing with each other, doing healing camp, telling hypnotic stories, and other things. So that's coming up, March Madness. All these things are on my website, transsonics. Com. I showed one book that I wrote, and here's a book that I put out in 2018, Transonics, the Vital Link Between Sound Health and Hypnosis, where a lot of the things I've talked about today are written about in this book. But I changed my website a little while ago, so it reflects what I'm doing. So transonics. Com. Com. How's that? The other one that I'm very excited about is a week in Mexico that we're calling Transonics in the jungle. It's March 21st to 28th, staying at a retreat Center down there teaching people about the connection between just these things that I've been talking about, but actually leading them through practices.

We will be working with sacred singing metals, with shamanic journeying, using the drum with chanting, the vowel sounds and overtone singing, combined with all of the special features that are available there at this amazing retreat center that I've been to several times already in the jungle. We have visits to the cenotes, which are these magical underground pools, and to the Mayan ruins, and a temescal, which is a Mexican version of sweat Lodge, and other activities of catered vegetarian meals. It's extraordinary. So all that information is also on my website.

Talk about a pattern interrupter. This is going to be, as I understand, in the jungle. So you get to this connect from everything and be connected. That's right. Inwards and with nature and sound. Very much so.

And many traditions have recognized the importance of changing your environment for a trans transcendental experience. That you get out of your usual environment and you go on a vision quest, or you go off to the mountains for a retreat. Or a Sabbath, taking time. It's a Sabbath. Yes. In the Australian Aborigine Society, they had something called walkabout. When a young person reached a certain age, they left. And it just took off and they followed the song lines, and they didn't get lost. They took off into the wilderness and they found themselves, and then they found their way back. But often it's hard to find ourselves because we're stuck in doing the same SOS. Yes. Same thing, different day. So breaking the pattern, going off there, all your usual Amenities. I mean, yes, people will have cell phones and computers. But other than that, you're really off in the jungle, literally, with peacocks and chickens wandering around underfoot.

Going back to nature.

Back to nature. All the things that we are scared of, fire ants, scorpions, spiders. It's not for the pain of heart, or maybe it is. Challenge yourself, stretch Stretch yourself. Growth, I found for me, it's nice to stay in my comfort zone for a while, then it gets I'm stagnant. I have to stretch myself and do something different. This is an opportunity to learn in an extraordinary environment, beautiful environment, and be transformed. I'm excited.

Time has gone by so quickly. We have talked about so many amazing things. I just want to thank you for doing the work that you're doing for not only doing the work for others, but for yourself and for how generous you are with your knowledge and your experiences and your stories because you are a storyteller. And I was wondering if you would take us out by playing the gong as we close today. The gong?

Yeah. Sure.

That would be amazing. Thank you so much for your time today. All right.

That was not the gong. I'm going to stand over here so that I can look at people. There are two gongs here. There's a piste Saturn gong and what's called an Atlantis gong. I don't think it actually came from an Atlantis, but Beautiful. Thank you so much.